Yan Katsnelson, M.D., CEO and Founder of USA Clinics Group, recently appeared on CEOs You Should Know, moderated by iHeartRadio’s Steve Delusant. Dr. Katsnelson shared his background as a cardiac surgeon and what inspired him to start USA Vein Clinics, which has evolved into other health service lines treating other chronic conditions.
USA Clinics Group, the parent company of USA Vein Clinics, is a national network of office-based clinics that provides FDA-approved, minimally invasive procedures and is dedicated to improving our patients’ quality of life through safe and effective methods.
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If you are experiencing symptoms of vein disease, such as swelling, pain, fatigue, and restlessness in the legs, as well as the appearance of varicose or spider veins, schedule an appointment with USA Vein Clinics to get the treatment you need.
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Steve Delusant (00:00):
Hi everyone, and welcome to this week’s edition of CEOs You Should Know. I am Steve Delusant, and I am excited to be welcoming the CEO of USA Clinics Group, which is Dr. Yan. Thank you so much for being with us today.
Dr. Yan (00:11):
Thank you, Steve, for inviting me.
Steve Delusant (00:13):
We’re excited to be able to jump into your journey to learn a little bit about yourself but also the organization. So why don’t we jump right into it? Can you share with our listeners a little bit about your journey from being a highly skilled cardiac surgeon to now becoming an entrepreneur and CEO of USA Clinics Group?
Dr. Yan (00:33):
I always say you never know what the next turn brings, and I guess I’m thirsty for interesting opportunities and whether I have a choice to continue with something that’s more predictable versus, maybe, taking a little risk but opening yourself to new opportunities. I’m guilty of taking this choice, and most likely it’s been very, very good for me.
Steve Delusant (0:59):
That’s very lucky.
Dr. Yan (0:59):
So, I started as a heart surgeon, and I did my medical education in Russia. I worked in Israel as a heart surgeon. I worked in Italy, I worked in England,
and ended up with a fellowship in Harvard and Brigham and Women’s Hospital. And heart surgery is an amazing thing; it’s pure magic! You know, someone has a broken heart, you stop, you fix it and it works like new or better. It’s absolutely amazing. It also—if you do things right—gives you confidence that pretty much anything is possible if you do things, organize right, and not take any chances. You know, it’s a very disciplined thing, and I found a new iteration of magic—in after twenty years, almost, of heart surgery—in minimally invasive procedures. Apparently, I learned that you can do fantastic things and cure people without doing major interventions. You know, surgeons like big incisions, and then they say, “Oh we can do big things with small incisions.” And when you can do amazing things without any incisions, it’s another level of magic. Sometimes, doctors do things for themselves because the love actions, love doing things. But for the patient, what can be better than minimal risk and great outcome? And that’s what the magic of today’s medicine is. Minimally invasive treatments of very common conditions through a needle hole, with minimal to no risk, and extraordinary outcomes, and that’s what kind of allowed me to change the course of my career and focus on this.
Steve Delusant (02:43):
That’s awesome. That’s an incredible, incredible journey. So what originally—obviously you’ve had a very impressive journey, as you just detailed out—but what originally initially inspired you to have that passion for medicine and how has that passion and that vision evolved over the years?
Dr. Yan (03:01):
Helping people is great. I mean, if you’re just trying to think about life and what impact you can make, I can’t think of something better than medicine, in any form and shape, you know? I have two girls they’re in medical school now and—
Steve Delusant (03:22):
Congrats!
Dr. Yan (3:22):
They said, “but you you know, mom and dad. You know you’re not really doctors.”
“What do you mean?”
“I mean, you manage a large organization, you don’t see patients.”
because recently, in the last few years, I don’t really see the patient. So I told them, “Won’t that be nice? ‘We want to be real doctors.’”
Okay, that was a few years ago.
And, “What do you mean? We want to see the patients like you’ve done before.”
So I said, “Will that be nice to help one patient?”
“Yes?”
“How about if you can help five patients today?”
“Yes”
“But what if you can help tens of hundreds of thousands of patients?
Will that be nice? Is it still—”
“Oh, we got it.”
So I think in today’s day and age, you know, with the technology and the opportunities for finding the way to help more patients with very cost effective, minimally invasive procedures for common diseases that dramatically improve patients’ lives and outcomes and quality and longevity, it is a great focus of ours, and I think we have an incredible team that’s also very passionate about this. And it started from vein treatments—who would think? You know, being a heart surgeon, we—you know, cardio, cardiovascular—you know, it’s all similar, I never liked doing the treatment for veins because it was barbaric. It was terrible surgery and I could not believe, like a woman, a man, saying “Doctor, thank you,” not knowing that doctors just did absolute torture. And when new technology came to do much better treatment—percutaneous and the ultrasound—not blindly with the needle hole andthe local anesthesia, when patients go home fifteen minutes later,
it was a pure miracle. And I had these patients whom I did their heart surgery that came in for veins, and I could not believe how much difference in
their lives these minimally invasive vein procedures made compared to heart surgery. Because when people have heart problems, they don’t necessarily suffer in every moment. Sometimes they say you know, “We’re afraid of heart attack, we’re afraid of other things.” And if they exercise, they have a chest pain or tightness, but it’s not all the time. There are common conditions like venous insufficiency, when people have swelling, pain, itching, cramping, inability to sleep, all the time, every day. And you know, America has great medicine, but if it doesn’t kill, doctors sometimes say “Okay, you can wait. It’s not as important and it will not kill you.” But doctors sometimes don’t feel patients’ pain. And when patients get relief from something like this, that’s incredible, and then we learned that we can do more, because many patients were coming to us not just with the vein condition, but arterial problems. You know, the blood has circulation— has two parts—you know, arterial, when the fresh blood comes to the cells and venous, like a sewer and you take waste. So first, we were doing this congestion from you know, venous part, but many people came with arterial and we learn how to do those treatments in the office as well, and then we learned that we can do many, many other things. And we discovered—ashamed to say, I didn’t know much about
fibroid disease. Eighty percent of black women and seventy percent of white women by age of fifty developed fibroids. It’s a benign tumor in the uterus, and it sounds like, “Oh benign, it’s not too bad.” But those tumors really ruined women’s lives. It creates bleeding, prolonged heavy menstrual period. It’s number one reason for women to lose babies, because if you have a tumor in the uterus, it competes with the baby for space and blood supply and many, many other things. So basically, it completely ruins life. And most treatments were like big barbaric treatments for veins surgeries, which switched to percutaneous. Original treatments for fibroid disease were to do nothing, which is not good, or myomectomy: removing—trying to open the womb like a C section open and try to remove these tumors, but you cannot remove all of them. In two to three years, fifty percent come back. Or hysterectomy, basically castration.
Steve Delusant (7:45):
Yeah?
Dr. Yan (7:46):
And sometimes it’s offered to women in their twenties and thirties because women suffer. And that was the standard of care. For twenty-five, almost thirty years, was FDA-approved uterine
fibroid embolization and maybe one percent of women get this treatment. So we kind of took it upon ourselves, tasked (ourselves) to educate women to know that there are other options and, quite frankly bypassed gynecologists, bypassed status quo, and it worked. We help many, many women with extraordinary results. And a number of these similar conditions that are very common, like (enlarged) prostates and osteoarthritis, that can’t be treated percutaneously without any surgeries, just keep growing. So I think we’re on the right side of the future and just you know, our motto is don’t be lazy, keep working.
Steve Delusant (08:41):
Yeah.
Dr. Yan (08:41):
Just so—that’s very exciting.
Steve Delusant (08:44):
That is, it’s incredible to see the innovation that you’re able to bring to the space and be able to do all this good.
Dr. Yan (08:49):
And we have about one hundred and seventy locations, sixty five percent of US population within driving distance to our location. So I mean, theoretically, it’s possible. So eventually we can help almost everyone.
Steve Delusant (09:00):
That’s great, that’s incredible. Well, with all the amazing advancements, I’m sure along the way, there may have been some challenges you also faced. Can you share with us what some of those challenges might have been and how you guys were able to overcome them?
Dr. Yan (09:13):
*sarcastically* Oh, we don’t have any challenges, no. So in medicine, I think the biggest challenge is consistency, because it’s, you know, people argue: “Is it art? Is it science? What is medicine?And you might know. Nobody asks, “Do you know a good Starbucks?” Everyone else asks, ”Do you know a good doctor?” And it seems acceptable that there are better doctors, worse doctors. People have different opinions. I don’t know, I think differently. You know, being a heart surgeon, I learned that there’s certain standards. I always know what I say in court, but what if something goes wrong? So in a heart surgery, we’re very precise with indications like one, two, three. You need to meet certain criterias because the burden of risk is very, very high. So if you subject someone to risk, you better know why you do this. So we don’t take any decisions lightly. And I took—I also served in the Navy, so if you do something wrong in the Navy, you end up dead. So it’s just like, looking in the world more in black and white, yes or no, according to rules or not. So we basically created this imaginary world that don’t speed, don’t drink and drive, don’t just do the right things, and we created the system in our organization. We spend a lot of money, a lot of time to create a management platform software that unifies everything that’s based on the rules. So we help doctors to make better decisions by gathering all the information as much as possible, objective from ultrasound machines, from CTs, from different things, and presenting to the doctors already matching to every single guideline. So, it will save time and make sure that, you know, whatever we can do to prevent inconsistency, we do within our power, and doctors using this technology achieve extraordinary results. Like, for example, for fibroids, our need for recurrent procedures are almost twenty five times less than published data because of this consistency. So I think that’s thebiggest challenge, how to achieve better results consistently, and it will dramatically decrease cost of care and provide a lot of transparency. And I think that’s what we need right? Decrease the cost of care so that it will be enough care for everyone.
Steve Delusant (11:39):
Sure, I think that that consistency in high standards allows you to have all the different locations across the country and the confidence that the care that anyone is getting that visits one of those centers is going to be the best there.
Dr. Yan (11:51):
We can deliver what we promise, correct.
Steve Delusant (11:53):
Yeah, that is awesome. So you yourself pioneer in a lot of advanced technology, but I know something that is very important to you isproviding high quality care to the underserved communities. What drives your commitment to this mission and how do you see this approach evolving in the future?
Dr. Yan (12:13):
You know, I like (the) excitement to make a difference. You know, you take someone who is the sickest and make a difference. I mean, it’s important to help a little bit, but to me, it’s more exciting to help someone who suffers a lot. The reality is in an underserved community, unfortunately, people, even if you have access to care, I can’t say that they don’t have access to care. You know, they have Medicaid, they have maybe even better access to care than anybody else because it’s free, but they don’t use it. Maybe a matter of education, maybe a matter of other things. So solving this gap and helping patients that suffer the most because of whatever the reason they didn’t have a benefit of using the care, excites me a lot. And most of our doctors are very similar, you know, heart surgeon’s, vascular surgeon, and interventional radiologists, people that went to medicine to make a difference as much as possible, So it’s kind of very much aligned. You know to– we like to make a difference. There’s pathology and problems and underserved populations and I think everyone benefits. It just kind of fits like a glove. And there’s a lot of work there, a lot of work and a lot of positivity. And when people (are) happy and thankful and you make their life better, it’s invigorating. It’s really what excites us and what moves us. And you know it’s not difficult. We enjoy what we do and (we) have so many doctors work really really hard and they have one doctor he was a heart surgeon. Now, maybe he came to us sixty five years old and maybe two three days a week. He works six days a week, work really hard, And I ask Steve, “Why do you work that hard?”
“I don’t work, I have the best time of my professional life. I mean, I enjoy every moment.” And he’s phenomenal, here in New York and New Jersey. So all of us like this, and it’s just, I think that’s that’s why people should go to medicine, to make a difference.
Steve Delusant (14:18):
Yeah, it kind of is full circle. So when I originally asked you why I went to medicine, right, it’s to have that passion and to help people. And I think that it’s refreshing and awesome to see that that’s trickling down to this important.
Dr. Yan (14:29):
I practiced in five countries. I visited sixty three, sixty four countries, and so I can tell you there are many ways to practice medicine. And the goal is to innovate. The goal is, you know, it’s not where’s the pack now, where’s the pack going? Just imagine this in three-, four-dimension space where you want to be in a certain point of time and space in one, five, ten years. I just have a great team and work towards the goal, and I think that’s that’s absolutely possible today.
Steve Delusant (15:00):
That’s great, Well, we’ve talked—we touched on this earlier. Minimally-invasive procedures have really become the hallmark of your practice. Where do you see that role advancing in other shapes of the healthcare industry or other healthcare delivery outlets?
Dr. Yan (15:16):
It’s a great question. Fee for service service like today’s medicine. I can honestly tell, you know, the opportunity in US cares extraordinary—can be—but overall results are not as good as they could be if you compare it to the costs and many other things, because incentives is fee for service. So people focus on treating what they’re called chronic conditions. That means the condition never goes away, and it always brings fee for service. It’s a great business. We’re in terrible business. We I think the right thing is to cure conditions, find the problem and just fix it, sure, make it like touch and go with that’s a magic. It’s maybe not a business, but medicine is not a business. Medicine is about doing the right things. And I believe that no country can spend fifty percent of GDP and no employer can spend fifty percent of payroll on healthcare. So and eventually the music will stop and the right thing will be overwhelming. The right thing for everyone, just cure. And in my opinion, what we do decreases cost of care maybe tenfold, maybe twenty. For example, fibroids, when women suffer twenty, twenty five years, overall cost of care can be one hundred and fifty, two hundred thousand dollars or more, you know, between all the treatments and infertility treatments and especially not going to work and not having career, and it’s just extraordinary for I don’t know, ten thousand dollars, twenty times less, you can have a cure. That’s fantastic, fantastic, you know, vein, vein treatments. One to two percent of Medicare population, sixty five percent older, have ulcers, broken skin ulcers that completely limit them from veins, from congestion from poor circulation. And the cost can be one hundred thousand a year in perpetuity. Our treatment is single digit, you know, it’s it’s nothing, and it prevents this disease. People I don’t know, don’t look at this. When I spoke with a large insurance company. They look at what is the most expensive thing for them, running conditions, heart, cancer, other things. But and then in today’s world, like how can we control? What do we need to do? I think they need to think a little different, how we can either cure or how can we prevent? And I think the most exciting thing for me and for hopefully
USA clinics, and maybe for healthcare, is to make sure people live longer. Seventy percent of deaths are preventable. It’s at the heart or cancer, literally fifty-fifty, But what’s important preventable is—it sounds crazy, but it’s true—if you find cancer in stage one, it’s curable by definition. Stage one when it’s at the very very beginning, it doesn’t protrude, it doesn’t go anywhere that they can spread. So you fix it and that’s it. Like you never had a cancer, if you find it. So I’ll give you example with lung cancer. Thank God, it’s getting better. And it’s getting better because you know, amazing thing happened. People decrease smoking. Who would imagine this twenty years ago, but never imagine, New York City restaurants no smoking. Eh, we’ll all live in a new world and early detection. Fifteen million Americans can have for free scan of you know, CT scan, and before, five years survival was three to five percent and now, find earlier, can be ninety five percent five to ten years of survival, it completely turned tables. And heart, people mostly die from unknown heart disease because as a heart surgeon, I know, if you, if you are diagnosed, almost—it’s a mechanical problem—almost everything can be fixed. So early diagnosis is critical. And if you find it early, then we’ll make people leave and and it will be very cheap. The only thing is medicine is built today fee for a service, so if patient doesn’t produce revenue like chemotherapy and other things, it’s not very good for business of medicine. So I think we need to have a big shift in incentives and focus, that’s not this, but actually what’s important: the outcomes and decreased costs, and the best outcomes need to be rewarded. Don’t know, I can’t necessarily for myself and make this difference, but we can do our part, you know, just try to provide the data be available, again sixty five percent of U.S. population are within a driving distance, and keep talking about this to the right people and, who knows now new administration, let’s hope for the best. And you know, there’s a lot of effort to think about health and the longevity, and people talk about all the buy hacking and other things. I don’t know. We can talk about a lot of mysterious things, but we can talk about very easy, understood, and practical things like early diagnosis. Cheap. and make a huge difference. So I hope this message will be heard, and I’m pretty sure it will be because you know, eventually the right things come out. Many people think at the same time, and when it’s enough push, it will it will happen.
Steve Delusant (20:59):
Yeah, it’s an message that a lot more people should be listening to right? It saves you on the monetary side, but also long-term better quality of life.
Dr. Yan (21:07):
And then USA Clinics is based on education of patients, empowering patients, even if underserved community. It’s not like just opening offices in a bad neighborhood and (the) bronx. No, it’s just educating the patients, educating the bad options. And I think for patients, for people, get patients, like people, taking care of their health. They have one body. I heard Buffett once talking to you know, students or someone give example, like you know, if you would have one car for life, would you take good care of life? I mean, like your body, your health, if you just have one, would you take care of it? And and I think we need to think this way that if you, that’s your body, you need to, you know, if you want to have a long, productive, meaningful life, you know, you need to have a body that functions. And so I think today with the technology, we can– like planes don’t fall from the sky, right? And they can be one hundred years old because of redundancy and proactive maintenance. And if we’ll, if we’ll have the same approach to the human body and healthcare, it can be extremely safe and predictable and inexpensive and scalable. So I’m very excited where we’re going. I think we can really discover new healthcare and new life and hopefully you know, one hundred, hundred and twenty years old we’ll be in a good shape, functioning. I think it’s achievable.
Steve Delusant (22:49):
Well, I love that positivity. I hope you’re right, and I hope we do move in that right direction.
Dr. Yan (22:54):
Okay, asking my thing, I’m right.
Steve Delusant (22:58):
Another impressive fact about yourself is you did found You were the founder of the Chicago Heart Institute, founded to tackle complex cardiovascular conditions. What inspired you to create that and what is the legacy you hope it leaves?
Dr. Yan (23:12):
That was a long time ago when I was a heart surgeon, and I really liked what I’m doing, And it’s interesting. When I started at the University of Chicago, I had the shows and the radio stations about heart conditions and if you have a shortness of breath, if you have this, let us help you. And part of the Chicago Heart Institute was how do we bring top notch here to patients by educating them and providing access transparency instead of overcomplicating and just saying all the strange words that people don’t understand. We just need to provide the best care to the patients with the knowledge and try to eliminate as many as possible middleman. And you know, from this, it just transitioned to other minimally invasive treatments that can help instead of one or two patients a day to twenty or tens of thousands like we do right now in our amazing organizations with the one hundred plus fantastic doctors and great stuff and I think I’m very lucky, very lucky.
Steve Delusant (24:32):
Glad to hear that. I know we talked about this a little bit earlier, balancing between your business acumen and obviously your experience within the clinical medical space. How do you feel like those two experiences combined make you a better leader in the space?
Dr. Yan (24:48):
I think when we’re being in touch with reality, you know, understanding how to help the patients. I don’t think you can—to be the most effective healthcare leader, can be a doctor who thinks scale and about consistency. You know, if you think too much, “Oh, I’m a doctor…” From doctor’s perspective, “Oh I’m a doctor, I’m so important, I learned so much. I need to get paid a lot.” It’s wrong! Think from the patient’s perspective. “How can you help one patient? How can you help a million patients? And if you don’t know, how do you help one hundred? You think how can you help ten thousand? Until you find solution?” And I think using technology today, you know there’s the EMR that was a great thing that happened in the last twenty five years. Bringing electronic medical records. But most of electronic records it’s you know, garbage in, garbage out. It’s just like fancy word document. It’s not structural data. You can put anything, and that’s why things are confusing. I don’t think even AI can read this and understand. Because people are people, they sometimes put whatever the minimum they can get away with. We approach very differently. We think that knowledge should be gold and everything is structural data. So when you have a data that’s absolutely meaningful, every single thing yes or no, definitive, and you put on top of this rule’s best practices and you track outcomes, it’s incredible. That’s the tool that we use to treat, achieve outcomes, and talk about this and track, and I think it’s very scalable. I hope this approach will be patient first, and structural data and rules first, before, “Oh I’m a doctor, I know.” I mean that’s I think that’s that’s what allows medicine to be much better in the next few years. And I’m sure many others will use this approach as well.
Steve Delusant (27:06):
That’s awesome. Well, another great approach that you do is, while you’ve been recognized for a lot of the great work you’re doing in medicine, you’ve also been recognized for. A lot of the great work you do on the philanthropic side. What advice do you give to other healthcare professionals or those that are just entering the field to not lose sight of the importance of giving back and being involved in the philanthropic piece out there?
Dr. Yan(27:29):
I think it’s very important to think about the big picture why you went to medicine: helping people. And helping people, it’s not only, you know, prescriptions, it’s not only surgeries, just educate people about the ability to live better and longer and achieve more, maximize the life. I always tell that our goal, for example, with fibroids, is to give women the best version of her life as early as possible, and I think anything that we can do to advance it. For example, we have Fibroid Fighters organization that we’ve founded, me and my wife, doctor Flora, maybe seven or eight years ago, and that was amazing educating women about different options. And many—when you have a good idea, many great people joined, you know, with this energy and contribute and it just grows beyond a regional scope, much larger. Another example that I really like is to save the child’s heart. When I was in Israel, we were doing heart surgery on kids from around the world, and then I got a United Nations Award in 2018. They treated more than maybe seven thousand patient—kids from all over the world—in sixty countries for free, and established heart surgery in many countries: Ethipoia, in Tanzania, and it’s unbelievable. So I think always need to think—you know, when I was a heart surgeon, I knew two words when someone called thank you very much right away. That’s all. You’ll never ask, you know, details, insurance, this. Just like “thank you for your trust, let me do the best.” And I think everyone who goes to medicine or even healthcare need to think this. And it’s beyond just a job.
Steve Delusant (29:24):
We touched on this earlier, but I think it’s an important topic to dive a little bit deeper into, which is access to healthcare. Right? It’s not just an issue here, but really globally it’s become a very pressing issue. How, what advice would you give to others in the healthcare industry to change that? And how do you believe in an organization like USA Centers is changing that way?
Dr. Yan (29:47):
I think it’s an exciting opportunity because of technology. You know, the people say medicine is local. I don’t know, it’s not necessarily all “You have a good doctor around this and you can access.” I think medicine is more about information. It’s about knowledge, what’s possible, and you know, doctors need to have a couple advanced things like, had to get the data and, maybe, but to see and learn today doctor Google can be smarter than doctors. I truly believe that because with the information that constantly updates, it’s possible to have a system that’s really up to date on many things. What it means, like driverless cars, provides absolutely new opportunity for transportation. Sorry to say, but doctorless medicine to me is the key to scale, and give extraordinary care anywhere for almost free. So I’m actually extremely optimistic by utilizing technology and bringing the medicine that doesn’t require surgery or other things basically free anywhere in the world. That becomes not local, global. Maybe we’ll get to the point that maybe access to care will be right. I don’t know, things that were not possible twenty years ago, I see maybe realistic. Within the very short period of time. We have a software that were actually between seventy two hundred software engineers. We do it for maybe thirteen years already that builds a system. Everything from voice over IP telephony to control and track every conversation and EMR that knows everything is as a structural data and rules, with digitalized rules of doctors and patient engagement like basically guidelines that’s a bunch of PDFs and tons of books we digitalized so that it can, in real time, match symptoms, signs, objective findings to all these rules and guidelines and suggest the best actions, that are cost effective and extremely effective as outcomes. And I think I think it can be used beyond our organization needs and beyond just procedures and expanded. So I’m very excited at what lies ahead of us, and I hope we can make USA Clinics, a very generic name, can make a broader difference and not even maybe even beyond U.S.
Steve Delusant (32:30):
I love that. I’m excited to see the future and what’s in store for you guy next. We covered a lot today. Do you feel like there’s anything that we might have missed that you wanted the listeners to know about USA Clinics?
Dr. Yan (32:41):
USA Clinics has about one hundred and seventy locations in thirty three states. We have more than forty locations in New York City, alone, So you know I love New York City. And then we provide cure for many conditions, vascular conditions, venous insufficiency, arteries, fibroids, you know, women’s health, prostate, we don’t—we we okay to take care of men as well. Instead of big surgeries, we can just shrink prostate with the minimally-invasive percutaneous treatments. Now we treat to our osteoarthritis and and we’re always evolving. And what I can tell about USA Clinics is that, because of the approach and data driven approach, I hope we can deliver great outcomes to every patient that comes to us. That’s at least our very hard work and intention. And then they can find us on the USA Clinics dot com, USA Fibroid Centers. And the most important thing, everyone needs to be in charge of the health. You just have one body take care of it with us, not with us. But just don’t ignore it, don’t take chances, don’t hope for the best. Just, it’s possible to have long and happy and productive life. Don’t ignore it.
Steve Delusant (33:57):
That’s awesome, that’s great advice.
Dr. Yan (33:59):
Steve, thank you very much, that was amazing spontaneous invitation.
Steve Delusant (34:04):
I always love to ask one last question. So there is no doubt in my mind that based on your story and your journey and the future work that you’re going to do, you’re going to leave a legacy in the field of medicine. For anyone tuning in that’s thinking about entering the industry or have that passion to be able to help others. Like you said earlier, what advice would you give them?
Dr. Yan (34:28):
Aim high, aim high and know your stuff. I mean, it’s really, everyone that asks in our organization want to be very tall people. Have a strategy, think beyond horizon and dream and just don’t waste your life in small things. At the same time, you need to be put it in the ground, really good at what you do, and this combination, if you can groom yourself to be you know, like this, that would be– you’ll have exciting life and make a lot of difference, no doubt.
Steve Delusant(35:02):
That’s awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us. I was absolute pleasure learning more about you, learning more about USA clinics and all the amazing work you’re doing. So thank you very much for coming in.
Dr. Yan:
Thank you
Steve Delusant:
Awesome. Thank you guys for tuning in and tune in next week for next week’s edition of CEOs You Should Know.